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How exactly do you define the difference between a tulpa and an alter ego?

he just feels like a more social and more vibrant version of me

Sounds good to me.

8:37 PM

How old is your tulpa?

in tulpa years or human years?

I dont know what tulpa years are.

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Just want to know how much time they have been developing.

I created him in 2015

rain

is it weird that my "main" tulpa feels like an alter ego?

And have you been interacting with them often?

yeah

rain

is it weird that my "main" tulpa feels like an alter ego?

Is this a recent thing?

yeah ever since he started talking in tulpa servers Ive noticed some patterns in his behavior

8:39 PM

like he says and does things I would do if I had the courage

8:40 PM

and also acts as a protector

And what exactly is the problem? Or what does that have to do with being an alter ego? Do you not like them being similar to you in some aspects?

I think it may be some form of DID

You dont seem to have any kind of amnesia so its not DID. Also i dont think you described anything that could cause distress so i dont think is a disorder at all.

its starting to feel like Im an endogenic system

8:42 PM

with a traumagenic origin

rain

like he says and does things I would do if I had the courage

I dont think its weird or bad. Some similar things happen in our system.

rain

its starting to feel like Im an endogenic system

Well, endogenic means "internal origin" so you cannot be endogenic with "trauma origin"

so Im a traumagenic system that developed late?

Even if you have some kind of trauma, that doesnt mean that your headmates originated from it.

ugh I have to say it I probably do have some p-did or something

8:45 PM

I used to have the literal definition of an alter

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but I never told anyone. only my tulpas would call me by her name

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but I have no amnesia

Do your headmates cause you distress?

no

Then its not a disorder.

can a tulpa develop into an alter if they were created as a coping mechanism?

Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し)

Then its not a disorder.

For something to be a disorder it has to cause significant distress.

tbh, the fact that thomas might just be an alter ego after all does give me the chills a bit....

What do you mean by alter ego.

i dont think you need stress to have DID (obviously to form it you do, but it can disappear after right?)

berockly (TTG)

i dont think you need stress to have DID (obviously to form it you do, but it can disappear after right?)

DID causes distress. Which is that it gets in the way of your life and will be problematic for you basically.

Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し)

What do you mean by alter ego.

I mean he literally acts the way I would act if I was male....

more of an inquiry than a statement, but its based on what i know

Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し)

DID causes distress. Which is that it gets in the way of your life and will be problematic for you basically.

so when the stress is worked out does it no longer count as DID?

rain

I mean he literally acts the way I would act if I was male....

Katie acts the way nifty would if they were a child (sometimes)... Although this is just our explanation just like yours is, if we play hypotheticals anyone acts as any other if they were just like the first one is. Its pointless. (edited)

idk

8:51 PM

idk anymore

berockly (TTG)

so when the stress is worked out does it no longer count as DID?

ive heard stories about people with DID getting to a point where they can live peacefully with their headmates after therapy, so im just curious about what it is considered at that point

The fact that they are similar to you says nothing about what they are. But what you believe they are will shape what they are. So if you believe they are an alter ego, they will become so, and if you believe they are a tulpa, they will be.

my other tulpas act complety different

and, what is an "alter ego"

rain

my other tulpas act complety different

You are doing theorycrafting. You are using any means necessary to logically explain why thomas might not actually be a tulpa. I dont see how this helps at all... (edited)

Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し)

You are doing theorycrafting. You are using any means necessary to logically explain why thomas might not actually be a tulpa. I dont see how this helps at all... (edited)

may be

rain

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So, median headmates, headmates, or something entirely differentl

8:54 PM

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median headmates?

What is that?

I mean, Depending on how you view it tulpas are an alternate personality

^

In the sense of the body

8:56 PM

A median system is a system where multiple headmates make up a single identity (i think, thats what ive been told atleast)

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It seems contradictory personally

Yeah, but there is a big difference between how Niftys personality differs from friend group to friend group and how he differs for me.

Ah, so is that what alter ego means?

Basically.

Multiple ways of behaving from a single "entity"

Its not a different way of behaving, its a different way of being too. But yeah.

People do behave differently in different situations

8:59 PM

Is alter ego a personified version?

Thats why alter ego is quite a soft term.

Ah

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The definition initially struck me as hard termy

Its not very well defined, its usually used for specially remarkable differences.

9:00 PM

Between 2 ways of acting or being of one person.

Well, not a lot of psychology stuff IS well defined

I dont think its a psycology term even.

its not

I mean in the ballpark of mental stuff

but its the best term I could find to describe whats going on

I just grouped it under "psychology" since im tired

rain

but its the best term I could find to describe whats going on

What makes your tulpa someone else than you is that you "decide" to see it as someone else. If you stop doing that, which you are doing, it will stop being someone else.

but he naturally developed that way

9:03 PM

I didnt WANT it to happen

Destin, do you have any clue about why dream characters tend to feel/behave more separately than awaking mental charactersp

rain

I didnt WANT it to happen

But your seeing it as that

how-

My tulpas frequently feel "shallow", and ill get worried, but you have to realize that it is your head, the way you see it is the way it IS for you

rain

but he naturally developed that way

What way? It is not that they carry the alter ego label, you are putting it on them.

berockly (TTG)

My tulpas frequently feel "shallow", and ill get worried, but you have to realize that it is your head, the way you see it is the way it IS for you

Basically, your perception of things is your reality

berockly (TTG)

Destin, do you have any clue about why dream characters tend to feel/behave more separately than awaking mental charactersp

Hmm...

Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し)

What way? It is not that they carry the alter ego label, you are putting it on them.

Im not labelling anything yet

9:06 PM

you know what? this is going nowhere

Dream characters dont enter your concious perception for some reason... Why... We dont even know why we dream...

Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し)

Dream characters dont enter your concious perception for some reason... Why... We dont even know why we dream...

Oh but it does, to me perceiving something IS consciousness

9:07 PM

Or do you mean we dont perceive them "internally" from the inside

berockly (TTG)

Oh but it does, to me perceiving something IS consciousness

Their presence does, they decision making doesnt.

Well, i view it as a simulation, dreams are based off of your unconscious associations of things (birds have wings, cars have wheels, trees have leaves, etc)

9:08 PM

It is simulating it based off of tHose rules

9:09 PM

"People do __"

rain

Im not labelling anything yet

If they developed naturally to be similar to you then just let them be... If they are tulpas or alter egos you decide that.

9:09 PM

I hope it helps.

Also, an alter ego can be a tulpa if you want it to just by associating it as not being you

Well in my dreams people usually do a lot of un-people things.

(And being a tulpa)